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    Daytona problem explained

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    Donaldson

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    Daytona problem explained

    Post by Donaldson on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:22 pm

    Alright here we go:

    When you called for that final caution it was on the backstretch, i had just passed duster and had the whole field a lap down. Rick and 24 were right behind me on the outside at the time of caution.

    I slowed down and they both drove by me on the outside, they did not yield the caution. Mustangman was the only one who noticed because he also said i should be first.

    So at the time of pitting i was the only car on lead lap so i would have also came out in the same spot after pitting which was 1st not 4th... I pitted and 24fan and rick didn't, so they would have lined up 2nd and 3rd. Duster being the lucky dog would have started 4th with the rest of the field 1 lap down if they pitted when i did.

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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by racingrick on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:36 pm

    i admit i didnt hear or see yellow thats why i asked after i seen everone so down so if this iS true i will give win to don or whatever is right! had a lot of fun ty guys

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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by DusterLag on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:44 pm

    Bmx told the rest of the field to go and pass you because you were pitting.

    I believe you are correct about the lucky dog starting last on the lead lap though, not sure how it affects pitters though.

    Confusing all around for me between TeamSpeak and the server chat, then the false start.
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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by Mustangman759 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:45 pm

    DusterLag wrote:Bmx told the rest of the field to go and pass you because you were pitting.

    I believe you are correct about the lucky dog starting last on the lead lap though, not sure how it affects pitters though.

    Confusing all around for me between TeamSpeak and the server chat, then the false start.
    lucky dog should be given after the leader pits, that way we avoid confusion. but anyways D u werent last because we all got passbys
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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by Bmxtwins on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:46 pm

    well not much I could do.

    But here are my screenshots of how I am ruling this. As soon as i had the slightest throttle increase is when i "called" yellow. Rick was just passed but 24 was not, penalty tba.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?xtu3u6jylbv3i42
    http://www.mediafire.com/?bnhkf4cpmb38dr8

    However all the lead lap cars pitted during yellow, so this really did not affect the race TOO much. But it WILL be addressed.


    We rely on an honor system, i dont have eyes on the back of my head so it is up to you to sort the grid fairly.

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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by Donaldson on Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:50 am

    Mustang your 100% correct. The lucky dog should not be given the wave around until AFTER the leaders pit, the lucky dog is suppose to start as the last car on the lead lap. Which i thought was the rule but i guess not.

    Bmxtwins wrote:

    We rely on an honor system, i don't have eyes on the back of my head so it is up to you to sort the grid fairly.

    I tried to, i went to the lead where i was suppose to be for that last restart after the red flag and was told to go back to 4th. So i faced either getting dq'ed or going back to 4th.

    I thank the admins for at least reviewing the incident. I realize at the time there would be no way for you to review it and gets things right so it is what it is. Hopefully this will stop future problems like this from happening again.

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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by Bmxtwins on Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:10 am

    Thanks for understanding, I only went by what I saw, what Rick said, what Tim said and what Duster said.

    And if i do recall correctly Duster said "I don't know if they were ahead of him, but they could've been" or something along those lines.

    We evened out the results though, and that should be a fair enough decision. Because there is no time dated chat log I went by when I first put my foot on the throttle.

    --but they, 50 laps of racing not TOO many wrecks and we only had 1 issue with ordering and that was due to 2 cars missing their brakes and plowing into people. 1 due to lag, and 1 apologized.

    Now hugs and kisses and lets race next week.

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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by DusterLag on Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:45 am

    Thats what I thought too Don, I was confused when I was told to take the lucky dog as soon as the caution came out.

    Hopefully these problems will not be an issue at non-restrictor plate tracks.
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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by Bmxtwins on Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:31 pm

    DusterLag wrote:Thats what I thought too Don, I was confused when I was told to take the lucky dog as soon as the caution came out.

    Hopefully these problems will not be an issue at non-restrictor plate tracks.

    Because I assumed #24 was already apast Don. If one of you saw something you should've said so when it happened.

    Don has suggested a new idea, which will help clarify this. TBA

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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by DusterLag on Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:32 pm

    Mustangman759 wrote:
    DusterLag wrote:Thats what I thought too Don, I was confused when I was told to take the lucky dog as soon as the caution came out.

    Hopefully these problems will not be an issue at non-restrictor plate tracks.

    Because I assumed #24 was already apast Don. If one of you saw something you should've said so.

    I did, a few times, but you guys were distracted enough so likely didn't hear anything many of us were saying.

    Don also did in the chat.

    That reply was meant more for when the lucky dog was given than to who.
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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by Bmxtwins on Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:48 pm

    Ok, there was quite a large amount of chatter. I probably couldn't hear you. And Don only notified us when we were redflagged iirc. If not then I must've missed that aswell. All in all we do our best, and we DO make mistakes, we're only human Smile
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    Re: Daytona problem explained

    Post by Bmxtwins on Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:16 pm

    Topic solved, locked. If anyone has input they can PM it to me Smile

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